This document includes an abridged 9K document (my snippetts) published by the LEAGUE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY VOTERS, perhaps the best funded the anti-environmental Wise Use agencies. To read the full unabridged 95K document, return to the Web page (below) and choose the other option. They show that the so called private property movement is not what they claim to be at all. This is an example of the propaganda used to fuel the movement, as well as showing their real priorities.
Included here are newsgroups discussions of this to put the snippets in context. http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/e-pshort.html
..Newsgroups: sci.environment,ca.environment,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics may 16 95
Re: What "takings"? Private property? Ecology:
: Doug Bashford wrote:
b>
b> The various "Wise Use" factions have worked many people into a
b> lather that their property is in danger of being "taken" via
b> environmental laws. It's a propaganda hoax.
Who are those guys??? Professional tit-suckers and liars.
***See for yourself!!!*** Private property?? Ha!
[it was widely claimed that the Army Corps of Engineers were
denying building permits because of wetlands laws.]
b> "The Corps only denied one permit between 1988 and 1994 [....]
Subj: The Wise Disguise
Richard;
TIME magazine recently said that League of Private Property Voters
may be the most powerful arm of "WISE USE".
PRIVATE!.TXT, 95,077 bytes "Private Property" Voters? Dec 12 '94
PRIVATE!.ZIP (League's own words.) Download it from ONE WORLD
BBS, Los Angeles 310-372-0987 (1:102/129). ***See for yourself.***
"Wise Use" is known for their slick propaganda, and have on
this issue attempted to mix and confuse any legitimate "Private
Property" issues with their own agenda -- which
Since the League of Private Property Voters seems to consider
such things as de-funding US Forest Service road-building or
grazing subsidies or mining land give-aways "rights" on US
Forest Service land as "Private Property issues", it is easy
to conclude that....you tell me.
What do they really want? To protect the little guy, you and me?
Their "key issues" "Quick Vote Grids" spell this out loud and
clear. Where's the private property?
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K> Published by the
K> LEAGUE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY VOTERS
We believe mining claims on Federal lands are property rights.
Significant investments of time and money are made based on this
property right to produce hardrock minerals.
We believe grazing permits result from pre existing property rights. These
rights are well documented throughout western water and land use law.
Babbitt's "reforms" ignored and infringed upon these property rights.
[some supporters of LEAGUE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY VOTERS]
WESTERN FOREST IND ASSOC
WESTERN MINING COUNCIL
WESTERN RESOURCES ASSOC
WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM ASSOC
WESTERN WOOD PRODUCTS ASSOC
WESTERN WY LIVESTOCK USERS ASSOC
WHATCOM COUNTY CLUE
WI WOMEN FOR AGRICULTURE
WILD RIVERS CONSERVANCY FEDERATION
WILD RIVERS CONSERVANCY FEDERATION OF MI
WILDERNESS IMPACT RESEARCH FOUNDATION (WIRF)
WIND RIVER MULTIPLE USE ADVOCATES
WISE WOODS INDUSTRY SEEKS EQUALITY
WOMEN INVOLVED IN FARM ECONOMY (WIFE)
WOOD PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ASSOC
WORKERS OF OR DEVELOPMENT (WOOD)
WORLD ROCKHOUNDS ASSOC
WY FARM BUREAU FEDERATION
WY HERITAGE SOCIETY
WY PUBLIC LANDS COUNCIL
WY RESOURCE PROVIDERS
WY WOOL GROWERS ASSOC
YELLOW RIBBON COALITION
QUICK REFERENCE GRID
Cut this page out and then cut along the numbers. Place the grid
on top of any page of the vote index to give you a quick reference reminder
about the issues decided by the votes we included.
> > > House of Representatives Quick Vote Grid < < <
#1 Limit funding for FS multiple use roads.
#2 Raise grazing fees.
#3 No volunteers National Biological Survey (NBS)
#4 Require NBS to get written consent for access.
#5 Raise grazing fees.
#6 Passage of National Biological Survey (NBS).
#7 Mining Law Overhaul Land Restoration.
#8 Passage of extreme Mining Law Overhaul.
#9 Montana Wilderness Bill Passage.
#10 Motorized vehicle access California Desert.
#11 California Desert Act condemnation.
#12 Protect property values Calif. Desert.
#13 Reduce acquisition backlog Calif. Desert.
#14 Passage California Desert Act.
> > > U. S. Senate Quick Vote Grid < < <
#1 Increase grazing, mining, recreation and irrigation fees.
#2 Support a mining royalty.
#3 Economic and employment impact statements.
#4 Raise grazing fees.
#5 Cloture vote on grazing fees.
#6 Cloture vote on water rights and grazing fees.
#7 Cloture water rights, grazing fees and regulations.
#8 Make East Mojave a National Monument (not a park).
#9 California Desert Bill Land acquisition.
#10 California Desert Bill Passage.
Georgia
Bishop S (D) S O S S O O O O O ? O ? O O 25 21
Collins M (R) S O S S S S S S S S S S S S 93 93
Darden G (D) S O O S O O O O O O O S O O 21 21
Deal N (D) S O S S O S O O O O O S O O 36 36
Gingrich N (R) O S S S S S S O O S S S ? S 77 71
Johnson D (D) S O O S O O O O O O O S O O 21 21
Kingston J (R) S S S S S S S S O S S S S S 93 93
Lewis J (D) S O O O O O O O O O O O O O 7 7
Linder J (R) O O S S S S S S S S S S S S 86 86
McKinney C (D) S O O S O O O O O O O O O O 14 14
Rowland J (D) S O S S O S O O O S O S O O 43 43
Hawaii
Abercrombie N (D) S O O O O O O O O O O O O O 7 7
Mink P (D) S O O O O O O O O O O O O O 7 7
Idaho
Crapo M (R) S S S S S S S S S S S S S S 100 100
LaRocco L (D) S S O O S O O O O O O S O O 29 29
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LEAGUE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY VOTERS
Where's the private property? Please download it and see for
yourself! It's rich guys who want your taxes for subsidies.
They want you frightened so you will support them picking your
pocket.
Yep, Richard Walker said in full to Doug Bashford on 28 Mar 95 09:41:00
on SIERRAN about: The Wise Disguise
db> Where's the private property?
RW> The Devil is in the details. I've read the California Desert Protect
RW> act and it most certainly effects private property.
Yes, of course it does.. Why have you then not cited your gripe
with it? How many times have I asked you to get specific?
Richard, It seems you are really reaching. Please look at
yourself as others see you. It makes me wonder if you are a
source or a victim of this propaganda/urban myth machine.
Are you familiar with urban myths? Such as the lovers at
Lover's Lane who heard on the car radio about the escaped
one-armed maniac? They leave in fear. They get home and
and find a bloody hook hanging from the car door handle.
The source is the friend of a friend and it happened a few
months ago. This urban myth has been with us for over 60
years. Just the right mix of fear, logic and "story value".
Now imagine the power of urban myths generated by the above
documented propaganda mill which is the best funded of all
of Wise Use's arms..
Do you understand why we ask for specific cases? And why your
repeated friend of a friend, and "I heard", and hypotheticals
don't cut it? Because Property rights are already protected
by the Constitution, and other laws. And as the NRA says; more
laws have no effect on those local hick criminal bureaucrats
engaged in takings. Is this whole urban myth based on a few
lightening-rod cases? Like lightening, it makes a lot of noise,
but is not something to lose much sleep over? Could it be that
Wise Use has worked some people into a lather over a big noise
in the dark? I do not deny that people are really frightened.
--Doug
... False economic assumptions are the root of all evil.
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